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God who is all sovereign is able and does and even promises to provide and protect the righteous through times of world punishment and has proven this over and over again. God protected Israel when he punished Egypt, he protected the righteous of Israel when he punished Babylon
The presentations on this site are absent of “any” outside information which has made it impossible to draw the conclusions of interpretation as those which use information outside the bible. Let every one consider and choose based on their principles.
The term harpazo is taken from the Greek descriptive word for when the saints are “caught away” and is used merely for descriptive purposes, and is in no way intended to convey a belief in the many established “rapture”doctrines among Christian believer.
- 2 confirm, confirmation, twice, double
- 2 or 3 constitute “a witness”
- 3 days of death confirmed, full confirmation
- 4 represent the world as in the four corners of he earth or four hemispheres
- 5 from root of 4002 Strong’s Greek 3997 fig. use for grief, mourning, sorrow, also from 3958 to feel passion, suffer, vex
- 6 man made on the sixth day, the number of man, manlike, mankind, in likeness of man, in the flesh
- 7 the number of perfection, perfect
- 9 incomplete [man] time, amount, lacking, a time not due
- 10 the number for complete, completeness
- 12 a congregation of
- 14 perfection doubled, twice, confirmed
- 30 a cycle of time, full confirmation, fully allotted as in amounts, of time, feminine as unto the time of sickness (cycle, period) also as in 30 pieces of silver (four months wages or the reward of a time of planting) see also “month”
- 40 end of flesh, as in to get to the end of oneself, no expectation for change
- 42 40 and 2 to give up on the chances for change, no expectation for change confirmed
- 49 represents God as in 7 X 7 perfection multiplied by perfection
- 50 pente’-a multiple of five, fifty, Pentecost, Jubilee, staunch, stout, obese , fifth [rib], full, English we say: 100%, heavy, fat, fifth wheel, full
- 60 threescore , the fullness of man in time or number of, man
- 62 60 and 2 or the fullness of man confirmed
- 70 the fullness of man (threescore) complete (ten) also 70 rare 7 X 10 the perfection of God complete, as in, to forgive unto the perfection of God
- 90 is near a hundred not complete, as in an incomplete amount or time as unto God, a premature time
- 100 as in a hundred-fold harvest, completeness as unto God as 10 is completeness as unto man
- 200 as unto God confirmed, double, twice
- 300 is as unto God that which confirms death as unto God as 3 days confirms death as unto man
- 600 is as unto God in mangod next to the perfection of God not perfection “in evil” God of evil, devil
- 700 is as unto God in perfection as unto time or the number of, perfect completeness as unto God
- 777 perfection multiplied and the fullness of man confirmed or 7 X 7 and 60 and 2 = 49 + 62 = 111 (weeks) X 7 = 777
- 1000 is an indefinite period of time or the number of, amount of, (see Strong’s 7231-7233 myriad, millions) as in 7000 = indefinite thousands unto perfection could very well stand for millions of our English counting, also of time indefinite not long or short simply uncertain
- ½ or a half is uncertain as unto God unto confirmation and witness to the world, for a time.
- A time times and a half time-from one age (or time) to another and a brief time afterward uncertain
- Weeks- that which is sevened, multiplied by seven, perfect or a perfect/complete time threescore and ten
- Month-assertive, truly, verily, must come to past, intensifier, strong intensifier. See Strong’s Greek a number/word used as such (men’-mene) 3375,3303 or 281 surely, trustworthy. Also a word for a number as in English e.g. “19.99 firm” or 1 year warranty doesn’t always mean “1 year” esp. when the manufacturer is at fault, other examples include: amount, average, double, few, some, for years, coons age, great, group, line list, cluster, etc.
- Year-A time again, to do another, as in four season, or a time returns again, second time
- age- as in a time characterized by: Patriarch Fathers, Mosaic, Christian, Christ
Lord’s Day
1. The coming of the Messiah (Christ, Jesus) kingdom of God in man, the dreadful day of the Lord “upon”: kingdom of Israel is cut off, until consummation
2. The coming of Christ Return with angels, first resurrection, saints meet him in the air, the kingdom of devil/dragon fall, is consumed, destroyed: saints judge the world: kingdom of God reign on earth
3. Satan and all evil are destroyed unexpectedly, as God spared Noah and Lot from what was for them “the end of their world”, so also God spares the righteous in the end; the earth and heavens are consumed, destroyed, second resurrection, judgment and reward for the good and evil, the kingdom of God in heaven
QUIZ: what number would you use to describe: an indefinite period of time, confirmed as unto God, not complete as unto God
QUIZ: what number would you use to describe: an indefinite time, spiritual death [mankind] confirmed as unto God, a complete cycle, suffering?
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2. Messiah Prince to come
3. new covenant to come
4. Command to restore Jerusalem(city)
5. Jerusalem was restored “unto” Messiah (made ready for Messiah)
7. Messiah cut off (crucified) not for himself, us
8. (New) covenant confirmed one week (generation) during which: sacrifices/oblations caused to cease
9. (Cesar) prince destroy city (Jerusalem) the end of Jerusalem is with a flood unto end of days (end times)
10. An overspreading (something is built on Jerusalem’s temple location) until consummation (Wicked man of sin consumed at Christ coming)
12. Falling away “saints went out”-citizenship opposed to Christ=antichrist, not confessing Christ in flesh, (actions) Christian’s who’s deeds deny Christ.
13. Goat (west) destroys 1st world system, then divided into four-interim world governments, shared power Leadership (head) complete (ten)
14. Dreadful Terrible 2nd literal world system of that dragon, devil, man of sin
15. The mark imposed (worldwide identification system)
17. Saints refuse mark, slain, witness plagues poured out on devil man’s world kingdom (tribulation)
18. The abomination of desolation, devils trick, saint may worship (conditionally) compliance to Satan, possibly city set aside, then sudden slaughter…stand (exist) holy city (God’s people)
19. Tribulation ends on devil kingdom: he is 600 near perfection God evil, 60 the fullness of man, 6 number of man.
20. Men repented not…….eradication of saints and the word of God continue
22. 3 ½ …3 (death confirmed) ½ (a time uncertain as unto God)
23. Witnesses restored, God call and end to the order of their testimony, earthquake 1000′s unto perfection die, 7000
25. Kingdoms of the world subdued under Christ
27. Saints judge world
28. Heaven rejoice fall of Dreadful, Terrible 2nd world system (beast) destroyed, dragon/devil man bound ‘indefinite time 1000
29. Marriage supper
30. Ancient of Days (Christ) appoint David (one like the son of man) king forever
32. World rebellion
33. Gather to (Gog Magog fig.) world strategic battle positions
34. Surround saints camp
35. Fire rained destroy evil
37. First earth past away
38. Judgment set….The video presentations explain detail Revelation, Daniel In Plain Language, free
39. New Jerusalem bride….please limit all comment 500 word box on Christian Concern I video Youtube, Thank you
40. The wicked right outside the gates of………this list with all verses at the http://thetruerevelation.com
Test What You Believe
“Unless you have opposed what you believe, you have not proven what you believe”. -Jo Bernard-
This applies to any doctrine of belief that is refuted by the order and continuity of the prophetic message from prophecy.
There’s something you must do that I have done: you don’t have to believe anything different, but as a matter of “due process” you “must” master the case from the scripture presented here and from your own studies to openly challenge others that teach a rapture, in a test for yourself (prove) to see if you can prevail against what you believe; This is the only way to redirect your thinking to an objective unbiased pattern of thinking about the exact same verses of scripture you’ve used to support a belief in a rapture..
No one is trying to hurt you, put you down, or deceive you: but you need to prove, test, put on trial, attempt to break down, see if your belief on the rapture can withstand your absolute greatest effort to destroy the reasoning behind it; you need to do that even if just for one moment in your life.
As you know it’s called “playing the devils advocate, but I’m suggesting not simply for a few questions I’m challenging you to truly understand and attempt to use the material here and all you can find on you own to put what you believe to the test in open debate with those that believe in a rapture.
When you master how to argue both sides-then-and only then, will you understand the power of the mind to self deceive. This website will prepare you in every detail, and if you learn the key to prophecy, you will find that understanding the order of end time events will make you unbeatable in all your challenges of those that “believe” in a rapture.
No one is saying you have to “not” believe in a rapture, I’m saying you have to learn how to fight the rapture to win: and you can and will win over and over again; then decide what you want to believe
Re-open your mind, allow yourself to rethink. Many great minds have fallen into a belief that is simply not true: allow yourself to be humble enough to consider the question, what if I’m wrong, and if I’m right it should be impossible to refute the belief regardless of how diligently I try to refute it by USING a whole new way of looking at it from scripture.
Turn your thinking inside out, even if only for a time in your life, you must allow yourself to do that, at least for a time, why do you think the devil is called the Arch Deceiver… wait!… I know you are fighting that aren’t you… that’s funny to you isn’t it? If Satan has deceived most Christians through every age, why be arrogant to think, “oh, not me”?
Before you every heard of a rapture, did you teach yourself of a rapture from the scripture? Or are you just following in agreement with the masses, believing it’s impossible for the majority to be wrong? It is only possible to teach yourself out of the rapture belief through scripture: only those that do not rely on scripture used in its proper context are able to convince themselves and others about a belief in the rapture.
I know, no one wants to hear they have been convinced of a doctrine that is a twist of scripture, but haven’t you come to realize those that are convinced of any belief have not learned to argue the other side?
Consider this, have you gone to the expense of time and deep study to make your best efforts to refute “everything” you believe? Yes everything? So why not make your absolute best effort to learn this material and try, just try to use it to refute the belief of a rapture? What would it hurt if only you try for a time in your life?
The scripture say’s prove (test) all things, hold fast to that which is good, That means you should try to refute what you believe at some point before you commit to it.
Most Christian’s are lock into beliefs they have never questioned for their whole life, they don’t take the time and effort to study to show themselves approved: I mean real study, the testing, proving, challenging ones belief against others that believe it kind of study.
Most Christians only study to prove what they believe not to test or challenge and fully prepare themselves to oppose what they believe in open debate, with real live opponents, challenging them on every level until they can not find any thing else to prove.
This is how we become locked into beliefs-by not challenging them, merely aligning our thoughts with accepted patterns of belief about a scripture. Proving scripture is not finding agreement about it, it is realizing a whole new case can be effectively argued, this can only be done by great moral courage to do so.
This is the only way it is truly the only way, the only hope of you being able tho see the rapture for what it is-” it is a belief”, that’s all it is, a very strong belief, formulated on a few scripture that stand in blatant denial of other scriptures that clearly prove the idea of a rapture is an ill place time of believing saints “Christians” will meet with Christ before he comes.
This lesson “will” deliver you if you let it, regardless of whether you believe you need to be delivered or not you should take this challenge for conscious sake. The material here will help you to set many others free from the false idea that God will rescue his people by taking them out of the world during the time of greatest trial.
I’m challenging you to believe not only the scripture, but to believe that God can and will provide for his own people during any hard times that he sends upon the earth.
Before you go any further in your belief about the Rapture: just for this one moment in your life, just for this “one moment” allow yourself to doubt what you have been taught, and what you have learned about the “rapture” and master how to put someone to the test on it.
Lean on this one single thought, this one single thought “false prophets have always convinced God’s people they will not have to endure a time of God’s judgment.
What is the problem? God’s people are convinced of deliverance from a time intended to prove “them” (Christian), they want to believe that God will miraculously take them up to be with him “before” he returns and destroys the very same kingdom which the tribulation begins with and ends with.
Many of them have convinced themselves that God is not yet done with Israel, and that these are the saints of the tribulation: the teachings here will prove how that Israel rejected their Saviour. God will not bow to them, and allow them those primitive sacrifices of animals again, which were only a shadow of the truth, the real thing, “Christ” their one and only acceptable sacrifice, which they to this day reject.
This website can help you see every single detail of the other side, later, once you commit to the challenge, I will give you transcripts of online battles and you’ll be able to see clearly not only how to rethink this whole thing but how blindly others that don’t rethink really are.
When you are perpetually locked into fighting against something (especially a belief) you are not allowing yourself to really think and rethink objectively, you can never really put what you believe to the test until you fight against it with all your heart, and with all your strength, and with all your might, and with all your mind.
Now face it, have you ever allowed yourself to do that? Your bias is so strong you haven’t dared to allow yourself the chance to really truly fight against what you believe, not just question, but really really fight it, perhaps other reasons for not fully embracing the opposing side is that you have taught many others what you believe and the consequences of discovering you are wrong is too overwhelming.
Just for a small time in your life, I’m begging you, to take just a moment; and fight what you believe, with all your heart, with everything in you. If you can fight what you believe and what you believe can not be refuted, so be it; at least you have given yourself the chance to radically alter the way you think about what you believe and can confidently say you have put it to a true test.
The problem with most Christians they’re so mule headed, they can’t alter the way they think, even some people of the world can allow themselves to be more objective than many Christians.
How do you think people get locked into cults: they can’t swing around and even for a brief time in their life “fight” with everything in them “against” what they believe; it’s like spiritual AIDS, their spiritual immune system is defeated.
My friend, if you’ve never fought against what you believe how can you be sure with absolute certainty you are not deceiving yourself? The answer is, you can’t, in fact unless you have ardently, opposed what you believe, you have not proven what you believe. -Jo Bernard-
It is common human nature to be so busy fighting for what one believes and against everything else; not realizing that what seems perfectly rational is not really rational at all.
Haven’t you ever thought someone was the right person for you? and for a long time you convinced yourself by making a million good reasons, and then later you find out you were only deceiving yourself?
That’s exactly what people do with the biblical beliefs: with so many beliefs, religions, cults or otherwise non-religious people out there, that should tell you something. You are not any smarter than all those people in the world-when it comes to beliefs, it’s simply the way the mind operates , so you got to do this, if you are “truly” sincere, you gotta just try!!!
The mind that can not find even one day of objectiveness can be blinded by anything, the mind is much more powerful than you give it credit for. The only reason the people that don’t believe the rapture seem like hopeless basket cases is because the power of self suggestion of your own mind makes it so.
You have convinced yourself they are poor miserable blind pitiful sheep, when you become a master of arguing both sides: then and only then can you make a better decision. Nicodemus had that ability, the other Pharisee’s had it too, but never allowed themselves to explore it. I have personally had to learn to do the same.
If you love God, if you love Jesus, turn yourself against this rapture doctrine for just a few days, weeks, months, or a short time and learn everything on this website and learn everything you can on your own, and find someone to fight with: YouTube is only one place to start; there’s Facebook, Myspace, forums and Blogs. Create a new account with a different name and go for it!
Think of it as playing the devils advocate without giving in for a time, if that’s the way you need to think of it, anything to get your thinking turned completely around, do whatever it takes to radically think different and rethink the rapture doctrine: then you’ll know the truth and you will know you know it.
Just this one time, no looking back, no giving in, learn everything here and add to it for yourself. You’re smart, build your own case against the rapture, even if just as a matter of due process, but it’s not just for fun; millions of Christians are not prepared for what prophecy has promised us.
I want you to open your eyes: many church going believers “are children of God” “they are” but they are living in willful continuous open sin, and a time of testing and judgment has always come on God’s people, and in this case it’s been promised!
Just like punishment was promised on Israel. The false prophets convinced the people of God they would never be punished, and that God would miraculously deliver them. but God took the righteous into captivity along with the unrighteous.
Consider “Daniel” and al the other righteous Jews which also entered into Babylonian captivity. All of this was only a shadow of what God would do on a worldwide scale with the church in the end times.
Now, do it! put the rapture to your most diligent test, just for a moment in life, determine to be the best a ever testing the rapture, and then you’ll know for yourself. All those that love Jesus will fight, even if for a time. You just gotta do this!!! either way it turns out, you’ll be so glad you did, Jo Bernard
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Closing Thoughts:
You can never be condemned of God if you no longer believe something that is not supported by scripture. Take a moment and view Christian Concern I and II and find out more about the consequences of stubbornly pressing on in a prophecy which is hurting God’s people
1. Seventy (the perfection of God) weeks (multiplied by seven “perfection”) “Messiah, “most Holy” [perfection/multiplied by perfection].
A dual description for extent of captivity i.e. seventy? weeks-punishment unto perfection, as in week-one generation (threescore) (complete) ten=70 years. II Chron.36:21, Dan 9:2 and 24 also Jer. 25:11
70 weeks is determined
the perfection of God multiplied by perfection is to come
2. Messiah, Prince “determined” (is to come) “to”: (in order to) finish sin, (establish) reconciliation,“bring in” everlasting righteousness, Rom. 10:4, Dan. 9:24, 25 restoring the city (unto Messiah) will begin “from” the commandment to rebuild even though in troublesome times Dan. 9:25
3. New covenant to come Dan. 9:27, Jer. 30:33
4. Command to restore city (Jerusalem) Cyrus Ezra 1:3 Darius Ezra Chap.6 Artaxerxes Ezra 7:13 Artaxerxes Neh 2:5-8
5. Jerusalem was restored “unto” Messiah (made ready for Messiah) work began immediately Ezra 5:16: continued until finished, in troublesome times Neh. 4:16 from the “laying of the foundation Zach.8:9″ “in these days after 70 years ” God return to Jerusalem Zach.8:3, Dan. 9:2 unto (toward) Messiah Dan.9:25
7. Messiah cut off (crucified) not for himself, but for us (all whom obey him) Dan. 9:26 Rom. 5:8
8. (New) covenant confirmed (inspired, written, by power John 14:26) one week (complete generation) during which: sacrifices/oblations caused to cease:Israel (Jews) will not be in agreement with Jesus Christ, God (they will reject him and they are rejected of God) “until” they see him coming (Second coming) (too late!) Matt.23:39
9. (Cesar) prince destroy city (Jerusalem) a flood would destroy Jerusalem making it desolate….unto (toward) end Dan.9:26 (of war between Jesus and Satan) at end of days. Israel lit. “if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in” TO Christ alone: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby (ALL) must be saved, Rom.11:23 Israel (lit.)cut off.
10. An overspreading (of temple area where sacrifices made) until consummation (Man of sin’s kingdom consumed at Christ coming) “For the law having a shadow” unto Christ (perfection) “can NEVER with those sacrifices” be acceptable Heb. 10:1, Christ only acceptable sacrifice Acts 4:12: Israel desolate from sacrificing until consummation (Second coming) Dan. 9:27 saints caught up meet the Lord in air “at” second coming/man of sin consumed “same day”I Thess. 4:16-17 II Thess. 2:8, Lord’s Day= 1. Messiah comes; kingdom in man, 2. Christ comes; kingdom on earth, 3. Christ enters into his eternal kingdom
Note:the word “sacrifices” {being caused to cease} is not in the original Text, Dan. 8:11,13, and 11:31, therefore it is in italics in the bible: The references of the Evil King of 2nd end days kingdom takes away the “daily”, speaks to a systematic approach of eradicating God’s people worldwide, through depriving them of religious rights, and of participation in the economy, and the needs they require for “daily” sustainment.
11. 1st lit. world system (Ram push west, north,south) 2 horns (armies as animal has horns to fight with) not expected to fall=42 months fig. (40 end of flesh-2 confirmed=until no expectation for an end-confirmed) Rev. 13:1-10, Dan. Chap. 8
12. Falling away said of saints “they went out”=citizenship opposing to Christ=antichrist, not confess Christ in flesh (actions) deeds deny Christ. All talk, no do, not willing to suffer for Christ sake. They will accept citizenship to survive, they are pledging allegiance to oppose Christ.
13. Goat (west) destroys ram, Goat divided into four world territories-interim world system shared power Leadership (head) complete (ten)
14. Dreadful Terrible: One out of the four divisions Overwhelmingly Wicked, consumes other three: 2nd lit world system (beast) of dragon/devil, Man of sin, Fierce Countenance, Perfection of Evil, near perfection multiplied 666, devil in the flesh, God of evil,Ruler.
15. 2nd beast impose the mark imposed (worldwide identification system)Christians refuse, slain, before throne, witnessing pouring out of plagues tribulation on man of sin’s kingdom.
16. fig. Israel “church” sealed protected from tribulation, (1000 fig. indefinite amount or time) 12,000 ea. Tribe: fig families of God, 144,000 fig….. fig Israel (church) the lit. amount no man could number.
17.Before the “day of the Lord” “second coming” same day from I an II Thess. these things “must” happen:That day shall not come “EXCEPT”
1 Falling away- “they went out” said of saints fallen-antichrist, denying Christ in their flesh 2 man of sin revealed 3 exalt himself above God 4. sits in the temple as God, remember that day can not come “except” these thing happen, here’s more 5 many deceived 6 he does powers, signs, wonder 7 God even God send strong delusions Saints Harpazo-Wicked consumed with coming-same day
18. Vile king (man of Sin) enter the glorious land and plant the temple of his palace in the holy mountain, the “Gentiles” figuratively-those not of God, trodden down Jerusalem until the day of their consummation. The abomination of desolation implemented: an agreement (abomination) for (standing in) the persecuted saints (the holy place) which compromises them (which makes) unto death (desolate): possibly a city set aside for worshipers of God; (identification), citizenship opposed to Christ (the mark) allows them to worship Christ except while outside the city: Sudden mass slaughter.
19. Tribulation ends on devil kingdom: He is 6 number of man, 60 fully man, 600 near perfection, God of evil.
20. Men repented not: eradication of saints and the word of God continue.
21. holy city fig. God’s people, persecuted (treaded) unto 42 months (40 end of flesh-2 confirmed=until no expectation for an end-confirmed) Two “Witnesses” of God to the world OT/NT, Due. 31:26 Matt. 24:14 (bibles), prophecy for an indefinite time-as unto God-confirmed-to the fullness of man 1260 years, are then destroyed, world understand (see)-rejoice-holiday not buried in the minds of the world
22. 3 ½ days…3 (days death confirmed) ½ (a time with purpose uncertain as unto God)
23. Witnesses restored, God call and end to the order of their testimony, “A” worldwide earthquake, fig. 1000s (indefinite) unto perfection (seven) fig. 7000 die
24. Lord’s day coming w/angels II Thess 1:7 saint caught up (harpazo),”alive and remain unto the “coming” of the Lord” meet Christ in air coming I Thess 4:17 with angels-saints gathered from four winds/ Wicked man of sin consumed, devil bound for a (fig.) thousand years=an indefinite myriad of time uncertain-Rev.20:2
25. Kingdoms of the world subdued under Christ, Day of the Lord is the second coming of Christ at which time Rev.11:15-18
26. Chist ordered many slain, others banished to sever conditions Rev.19:20-21
27. Saints judge world I Cor 6:2 saints reign on earth and participate in world judgment. Those outside of Christ realm are banished to sever living conditions from which they cannot regain power. There is worldwide suffering for those that reject Christ kingdom.
28. Heaven rejoice over the fall of that Dreadful, Terrible 2nd world system (beast) and its man of Sin Dragon devil man.
29. Marriage Supper occurs after the coming of the Lord and the fall of Satan’s kingdom. Rev.19:7
30. Ancient of Days (Christ) appoint David (one like the son of man) king forever Dan.7:13-14
31. Satan loosed after a figurative thousand year period of time. Rev.20:7
32. Satan commands control over the people to convince them that Christ world kingdom should be overthrown, rebellion against Christ is sought worldwide. Rev.20:8-9
33. The world is gathered to (Gog Magog, fig.) world strategic battle positions. Rev.20:8-9
34. Satan’s forces besiege the camp of the saints and the beloved city. Rev.20:8-9
35. Fire rained destroy evil. Rev.20:8-9
36. Second resurrection Rev.20:12
37. Judgment set Rev.20:12-15 The devil, that great kingdom of the sinful, and the false prophets are cast into the brutal place of punishment for ever and ever: those written in the Lamb’s book of life are delivered up to God to live in the new earth that has a new celestial bodies.
38. The celestial bodies and earth as we knew them passed away, and the new earth has no sea, and the great city, that holy Jerusalem comes down from heaven, and the Lamb of God dwells with man. there is no sun or moon, the Lord God is the light of it and there is a river flowing from the throne of God, and the people of God reign with him for ever and ever Rev.21:1 to Rev.22:5
39. A walled city with twelve gates of God is promised: through which only the righteous enter, even though those gates remain open continually, no one that is corrupt or that causes anyone to sin will enter those gates by any means Rev.21:12-27 Rev.21:1 to Rev.22:5
40. The wicked, the are right outside the gates of the city of God Rev.22:15
It is possible to be blotted out of the Lambs book of life, Rev. 3:5







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